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Norton Commando 961SE

Technical Specifications
Norton Commando 961SE
Engine
Engine type
Bore x Stroke
Displacement
Valves
Compression ratio
Max Power
Max Torque
Fuel system
Transmission
Final drive
Clutch
Ignition type
Starting system
Lubrication
Exhaust
Spark plug
Battery
Gear ratios

Air-cooled,  parallel twin, 3 bearing crank and balancer shaft
88.0 x 79.0 mm
961.00 ccm
Push rod, 2 valves per cylinder
10.1:1
80PS @ 6500 rpm
90Nm @ 5200 rpm
Electronic fuel injection and multiple 3 way catalytic converter
5-speed constant mesh
525 “O” ring chain
Wet multi-plate hydraulic lifter
Crank fired electronic
Electric starter
Dry sump


12 Volt battery. 14 Volt DC w/22 Amp 770 Watt Alternator
Dimensions
Frame type
Rake
Overall length
Overall width
Overall height
Wheelbase
Seat height
Ground clearance
Dry weight
Fuel capacity
Colors
Suspension (front)
Suspension (rear)
Tyre (front)
Tyre (rear)
Wheels
Brake (front)

Brake (rear)

Steel tubular with integral oil tank
24.5 degrees



1420 mm (55.9 inches)
813mm (32 inches)

188kg (414.5 lbs)
17 litres (4.5 US gallon)
Black & gold
43mm Ohlins RWU
Ohlins reservoir-style twin shocks
120/70 R17
180/55 R17
3 cross-spoked wheels plus 1 reserve wheel
Full Brembo system, twin Brembo 320mm semi-floating hi
carbon stainless steel discs, Brembo 4 piston “Gold Line” axial callipers
Full Brembo system, single Brembo 220mm disc, 2 piston “Gold Line” calliper

Image: http://motos.autocity.com

Norton Commando 961 SS (2006)

Technical Specifications
Norton Commando 961 SS (2006)
Engine
Engine type
Bore x Stroke
Displacement
Valves
Compression ratio
Max Power
Max Torque
Fuel system
Transmission
Final drive
Clutch
Ignition type
Starting system
Lubrication
Exhaust

Spark plug
Battery
Gear ratios

Air-cooled, 4-stroke, twin cylinder
88.0 x 79.0 mm (3.5 x 3.1 inches)
961 cc
2 valves per cylinder
10.1:1

65.00 Nm (6.6 kgf-m or 47.9 ft.lbs) @ 5200
Carburettor, Twin 39mm Keihin FCR
5-speed
Chain
Cush drive clutch
Crank fired electronic
Electric starter

1 3/4 inch header system with merged collector and twin mufflers
with catalytic converters



Dimensions
Frame type
Castor
Overall length
Overall width
Overall height
Wheelbase
Seat height
Ground clearance
Dry weight
Fuel capacity
Colors
Suspension (front)

Suspension (rear)

Tyre (front)
Tyre (rear)
Brake (front)
Brake (rear)

4130 chromoly steel




1435 mm (56.5 inches)
813 mm (32.0 inches)

188 kg
17 litres

43mm Ohlins RSU - Adjustable preload, compression,
and rebound damping
Ohlins reservoir-style twin shocks-Adjstable ride height, preload
compression, and rebound damping
120/70-R17
180/55-R17
Single disc 320 mm with 2-piston calipers
Single disc 220 mm with 2-piston calipers

Image: http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191720

Norton C 652 SM International (1998)

Technical Specifications
Norton C 652 SM International (1998)
Engine
Engine type
Bore x Stroke
Displacement
Valves
Compression ratio
Max Power
Max Torque
Fuel system
Transmission
Final drive
Clutch
Ignition type
Starting system
Lubrication
Exhaust
Spark plug
Battery
Gear ratios

Liquid cooled, single cylinder, 4-stroke, DOHC
100.0 x 83.0 mm
625 cc
4 valves per cylinder
9.7:1
48 hp (35.8 kW) @ 6500 rpm
57 Nm (42 ft. lbs) @ 5200 rpm
Twin 33mm Constant Pressure Carburettors
5-speed
Chain

Twin-Spark CDI
Electric starter
Dry Sump with Duplex Oil Pumps




Dimensions
Frame type
Rake
Overall length
Overall width
Overall height
Wheelbase
Seat height
Ground clearance
Dry weight
Fuel capacity
Colors
Suspension (front)
Suspension (rear)
Tyre (front)
Tyre (rear)
Brake (front)
Brake (rear)

Race-developed, TIG-welded, Steel Tube
25°
1998 mm (78.7 inches)
680 mm (26.8 inches)

1380 mm (54.3 inches)
760 mm (29.9 inches)

158 kg
19 litres

Paioli 43mm RSU, adjustable Damping, 110 mm travel
Koni, adjustable Preload and Damping, 120 mm travel
110/70-R17
130/70-R17
Single disc 320 mm with 4-piston calipers
Single disc 220 mm with 2-piston calipers

Picture: http://www.fixya.com/motorcycles/norton/c_652_sm_international

Norton 952 Commando

Specifications
Model Type Standard
BASE MSRP(US) $14,995.00
Engine:
Engine Type Parallel Twin
Cylinders 2
Engine Stroke 4-Stroke
Cooling Air / Oil
Valves 4
Valves Per Cylinder 2
Valve Configuration OHV
Compression Ratio 10.1:1
Starter Electric
Fuel Requirements Regular
Fuel Type Gas
Transmission:
Transmission Type Manual
Number Of Speeds 5
Primary Drive (Rear Wheel) Chain
Wheels & Tires:
Front Tire (Full Spec) Avon 120/70 R17
Rear Tire (Full Spec) Avon 180/55 R17
Brakes:
Front Brake Type Disc
Rear Brake Type Disc
Technical Specifications:
Wheelbase (in/mm) 56.5 / 1435.1
Fuel Capacity (gal/l) 4.5 / 17

Source:
http://www.motorcycle.com

Norton Commando


One particular bike has almost doubled in value in the last five years - the Norton Commando. GUY ALLEN offers up this comprehensive guide to get you one of Motorcycling's icons...

It's remarkable that a bike with a nine-year production run chiselled such a deep impression in the international motorcycle psyche. Meet the Norton Commando.

First shown at the UK Earls Court Show (then enjoying the sunset of its glory as the motorcycle expo to watch) in 1967, the Commando was built in something resembling volume from February 1968 to - several changes of ownership and factory later - October 1977.

For those not in the know, we're talking of a 750-850cc air-cooled, pushrod, four-stroke twin, claiming 65 horses in Combat form (58-60 in the cooking versions) and weighing in the region of 190kg. Nothing special by current standards, perhaps, but definitely not out of the performance goalposts.

BUT WHY?
So why did it etch itself into the local riding psyche? There's plenty of theories out there, one of which is it was the world's first street-legal superbike worthy of the name. Which is tripe. Owners of HRD/Vincents, which predate the Commando by a fair margin, have reason to take issue with that, for a start.

I have another, if less sexy and more complex, theory. First, Norton had (like Triumph) successfully spent decades etching its name in the UK-centric racing landscape and established itself as a romantic name. Second, the company had the good fortune to produce its best model ever at about the time when the western-world's motorcycle market was expanding at a phenomenal rate. Early baby-boomers were getting into it, and the late baby-boomers are now joining them in the retro rush - timing is everything. Third, they're cheaper than the super-desirable stuff (again, Vincent), easier to ride, and much more comfortable than other twins of the same era.

Don't underestimate the comfort factor - it's one that assisted Harley's successful leap from Shovels to Evos. Now you could say anyone who sees comfort as a factor in buying a classic motorcycle is a sook - or someone not dumb enough to spend a fortune on something that hurts them. Your call.

WHO DID THAT?
Okay, let's go back a step and see where the monster came from. Norton's history can be traced to the late 19th century, but it's the pre-WWII racing record on the 348-633cc singles which really made the marque's name. A who's who of racing of the time (Woods, Frith, Hunt, Walker) rode them and established the brand as one to beat across Europe. Post-war, things were tougher, but the record's still stunning with singles such as the 498cc Manx being the mainstay. Racing names such as Duke, Minter, Hailwood and Surtees added to the trophy cabinet. Though it irks me to say it, the win on Sunday sell on Monday philosophy has a proud history.

Herbert "Bert" Hopwood (who joined Norton in 1946) is a name you'll come across several times if you read the history of assorted English marques, andseems to be the father of the Commando twin. His influence came to bear with the design of a 497cc overhead valve twin, which hit the road in 1948 in Dominator guise. It was redeveloped many times, with surprisingly few cosmetic changes, and eventually grew to 828cc (badged as an 850 for the last Commandos).

THE WHO?
It's the late 1960s, WWII finished barely two decades ago (which means the middle aged-men running the company probably had some involvement) and you're looking for a tough and sexy name for your new, big, streetbike. What was the toughest, meanest, outfit of the war (assuming you only want to talk about the winning side...)? Commandos. Gee, now there's a cheeky name for a motorcycle.

The kids who buy it missed The Big One, but their dads might approve - who couldn't like something named after war heroes? Oh okay, their mums. Even better! Well, that's one guess on the thinking of the time.

In late 1967 Norton rolled its prototype Commando onto the Earls Court stand. It was silver, with an orange seat, and some weird green globular thing on the fuel tank that (according to reports of the time) was meant to represent the new corporate identity. They ditched the last bit, and the orange seat.

The 1968 production model (green bodywork, black frame and seat) ran a version of the existing 750 Atlas engine, but ditched Norton's previous premium frame - the McCandless Featherbead - in favour of a new item that included isolastic engine mounts. And this was the crux of the new model.

Both Triumph and Norton vertical twins (and later Yamahas, and others) became vibration factories in their own right as they grew from 500cc to 650, then 750. The stroke of brilliance in Norton's case was to isolate the engine vibrations by mounting the powerplant in flexible mounts (something which owners of some recent H-D models will be familiar with), hanging from what was then a massive two-and-a-quarter-inch top tube. Bernard Hooper and Bob Trigg were credited with the design. (We're told Trigg later moved to H-D.)

In original form, you got a drum brake at both ends, a rear cowl (then called the Fastback, or ducktail in modern parlance), plus the new frame and a variation on the familiar Atlas powerplant.

WHAT, WHEN?
There are numerous variations on the Commando theme. For example, between the first bike and the 1972 Fastback Mk IV, there was an S, a Roadster, a MkIII SS, Interstate, an SS street scrambler to appease an American market that still wasn't appeased... it goes on. And there were a couple of Hi-Rider variations.

Fastbacks continued to 1973, 750 Combats had been around a while by then and are described by one history as "an unfortunate episode", while 850s had been in production for some time and took over the flag until the demise of the Hopwood twins.

Rob Smith, who has owned four, mentioned over coffee that most of the disc brake models ran the stopper on the right but, for no apparent reason, there was a batch that ran them on the left. Call it a practical joke from the shop floor.

A good resource for trying to make sense of all the variations is the UK owner site at www.noc.co.uk, which has some well-sorted historical information.

If you're cashed up, you can buy a new Norton today. The two alternatives are building one from the complete list of spares available in the UK - there are people who will do this for you - or the modern 952 remake of the machine by Kenny Dreer at Norton America (www.nortonamerica.com). Both are hideously expensive.

WORTH A RIDE, GUV?
Without doubt the Commando's distinguishing feature, that isolastic frame, is what makes it work. A decent four-stroke 750 twin is almost guaranteed to provide reasonable grunt, but having the vibration isolated (in a pre-balance shaft engine) makes it an unusually pleasurable experience.

The rest comes down to simple maths. It's small, slim, has enough power to make life interesting - how hard can it be?

Those in the know prefer the drum brake models which generally stop better than those using the truly awful Lockheed front disc. A 1972 example I rode some years ago, owned by journalist David Morley, has got around this by ditching the original disc and caliper in favour of a single Fireblade set-up. It's a good idea and looks surprisingly unobtrusive.

Whether it's a good ride often comes down to the individual motorcycle, its set-up, plus the rider's preferences. They can have sweet engine and gearbox, but the suspension on most examples tends to show its age by being relatively unresponsive by current standards.

Overall, a really little bike (physically smaller than some 250s on the market) with around 60 horses makes for an interesting package.

Parts are readily available, not all that expensive, and there's a lot of service knowledge out there. Owners say you can make it a reliable classic - which is code for don't even consider it as a day-to-day mount. But a well set-up one might be a trustworthy Sunday bike.

Well set-up is the catch, though. It seems to be the fate of Commando owners is to spend the first few months of ownership cursing and tinkering. To quote one: "The first few weeks, every time I rode it, it broke down."

As classic folk attached to any marque will tell you, this is a state-of-mind thing. If you want those cussed pre-wrapped features like reliability, look elsewhere. If a bit of a riding and mechanical challenge is you, you've come to the right place. And the Commando seems like one of the better options available.

COMMANDO FIXESThere are numerous bits of advice out there when it comes to making a Commando reliable and ride-able. Here is a potted version of the available wisdom:

Bottom end: Combat engines in particular were notorious for eating main bearings, though all models do it eventually. Without going into details, Superblend bearings have long been seen as the fix, though expert fitting is critical.

Isolastic mounts: They do flog out eventually and the later MkIII vernier versions (versus shim) are an essential fit.

Carburetion: Open for debate. Good twin Amals work okay, though there are Keihin set-ups available which claim more horses and more reliable starting. Some folk advise retro-fitting a single Amal Mk II concentric on the basis it's easier to tune, or a Mikuni.

Ignition: Bin the points and go for a Boyer electronic set-up.

Clutch: Various advice on this, but careful set-up with a bronze plate set seems to be the go.

Fuel tank: If by some miracle you have a surviving fibreglass tank, store it and replace - it's a fire hazard.

Front brake: Drums are okay and the stock Lockheed on disc models is poison - think about replacing it. Looking original is no good if you're doing it up a tree.

Riding position: Almost universally described as Gothic. Flat bars and rearsets are said to be the go. One owner describes this as changing the ride position from that of a classic bike to a modern sports-tourer. If you do that, he says, you will ride it like a modern bike and will be pleasantly surprised when it responds. (So long as you can get your head around the right-side gearchange - though left-side is available on later versions, and some earlier bikes have been converted.)

Head steady: Owners say a Norvil head steady and tightening down the isolastic mounts (this must be done with care - not for amateurs) will improve frame rigidity though you cop more engine vibration. Our take is leave it alone unless you're getting unreasonably competitive.

Front tyre: Some models may be carrying a 4.10 width, though a 3.60 (max) works better.

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